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Werewolf Translation Guide $3.99
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Werewolf Translation Guide
Publisher: Onyx Path Publishing
by Matthew E. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 11/08/2012 14:00:37
I absolutely love these Translation Guides! Being able to bridge two great ages of gaming is extremely enjoyable, especially with the 20th Anniversary CWoD books coming out. I swear, if they published a Guide for every CWoD line, I would buy them all!

Rating:
[5 of 5 Stars!]
Werewolf Translation Guide
Publisher: Onyx Path Publishing
by Carl L. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 05/11/2012 22:10:12
Highly disappointing. Granted it was only 4 bucks, but I've basically thrown it away because this pdf. says is "wing it". For 51 pages at that.

I'm honestly not sure which is more frustrating, the wasted money or time finding out how utterly useless this thing actually is.

Were it not for the fact I have to do so, this would garner a 0 in the star department.

Rating:
[1 of 5 Stars!]
Werewolf Translation Guide
Publisher: Onyx Path Publishing
by Steven J. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 04/25/2012 13:27:44
Here is my review for the new World of Darkness Translation Guide
for the Werewolf lines. I will give the over all product a rating but I will also be giving each chapter a rating and why I am giving them those ratings. To be I am a huge fan of WTA and so I look at this product with that in mind. I really like the Current WOD rules set for their ease of play and clarity, but I do not care for the Forsaken setting.

Introduction – N/A
A Good intro to both games but really at this point those buying this are familiar with the games/settings and this would count could have got to other sections.

TRIBES; 2 out of 5
Bad
By far the BIGGEST let down in the whole process.
The Tribes are treated as watered down lodges/camps in the different versions of the game. This may work for some of those out there but really feels like a cop-out and insulting to the spirit of Both games and those that play them.

Good
Fighting Style: Kailino using the nwod rules.

SIGNS of the MOON; 4 out of 5
This section covers Auspices and Breed and handles the task very well.

- Good
Philodox, and Ragabash Auspices for use with Forsaken rules set.
Irraka and elodoth Auspices for use with Apocalypse rules sets

Metis and Lupis breeds for use with Forsaken rules. Including names for them that fit the Forsaken setting.

Bad - Not a big section so nothing stands out as lacking

SPIRIT MAGIC; 3 out of 5
Covers Gifts, Rites and Fetishes, section is a little short and could have used more details.

Good – Instead of trying to convert a million gifts they give us rules for doing so ourselves

Bad – I would have liked to see more detailed examples and maybe a page listing several Common Rites and what their levels/Dice pools would be in the other system. Same for Fetishes.

TRAITS AND SYSTEMS 4 out of 5
Covers a lot of the other rules aspects,

GOOD - Rules for beefing up War form in Forsaken
Harmony/ Threshold of Sin for Apocalypse
Look at Frenzy in both games
Renown including expanding it to the 5 types in Apocalypse
Ancestors and Pure Breed as Merits for Forsaken rules set
Pack Tactics for Forsaken rules set

THE SPIRIT WORLD 4 out of 5
A good comparative look of the 2 spirit worlds and how they differ. A section on converting Spirits from one setting to the other. Along with guide on powers.

It also includes rules for making Possessed in Forsaken, or making of the Ridden for Apocalypse. The Totems section is the weakest but due to the nature of Totems in Apocalypse, they are hardest and would say the advice that they give is pretty dead on and that some of the more powerful ones would be harder to duplicate without some ST lenience.


CHARACTER CONVERSION 4 out of 5
This section offers a step by step walk through of converting a character from one setting to the other.

The Highlight in this section is that it give a full example character sheet for BOTH settings.

While overall This was rather well done the handling of the Tribes is a HUGE let down and takes something that could have been great and what a lot of WTA fans would have wanted to something that is just pretty useful.

Rating:
[3 of 5 Stars!]
Werewolf Translation Guide
Publisher: Onyx Path Publishing
by Keegan S. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 04/20/2012 00:39:25
I was rather excited to pick up this book. After getting into Apocalypse after the hype died down (by several years actually) I was excited at the idea of having the Apocalypse setting in the Forsaken setting. This guide does an admirable job of accomplishing this. It offering good tools and easy do it yourself guides on how to convert gifts between the systems. That being said I think this book falls short of the Vampire Translation Guide.

1) Only a few gifts are converted between systems. Now I understand not doing every single gift from every single book. That would be beyond what word count would allow. However adding in all the gifts from the Revised Core would have been a nice touch I think and the guides in the book could be used for any supplements we might have that weren't covered by the umbrella conversions.

2) Having the Apocalypse Tribes as actual tribes in Forsaken. Now I like them being lodges too. It was helpful and well presented. However I now have to some tweaking. When I think that feature should have been standard. A "hey this is what they look like as a tribe and this is how they'd look like as a lodge" kind of thing similar to how Vampire did it's translation guide.

3) It appears to me that Forsaken got more love in that more of it's system was translated into Apocalypse then Apocalypse into Forsaken. There were relatively complete gift lists for the Forsaken tribes if added into Apocalypse, as as I mentioned above, since the Apocalypse tribes were only lodges we weren't given favored gifts for them. Which I think is a bit of a let down and a shame.

Over all a solid book. I recommend anyone who wants to get started on converting Forsaken or Apocalypse to the other pick up this book. It's a good starting point if you don't know where to go. If you think you can convert them yourself this book might be a bit redundant but you might get something out of this book.

Rating:
[3 of 5 Stars!]
Werewolf Translation Guide
Publisher: Onyx Path Publishing
by Emelyn W. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 04/11/2012 18:59:32
First I will note that I am not incredibly interested in including Forsaken in my classic werewolf the apocalypse, so my reading of those particular rules has been cursory so far. But even with a brief once-over, some things jumped out at me. The tribe set up for converting W:tA into W:tF isn't nearly as good as the Vampire translation guide, it only allows you to introduce the classic tribes as lodges in the new game as opposed to an option for making them a tribe or lodge like Vampire did with clan or bloodline.

Secondly is the gifts. This product gives guidelines for converting them to the new system, but doing soonly in the point based level of the new system and it only gives an example of a single gift being converted between the games. This was one of my real drives to purchasing the translation guide; to have a possible decoupling system for the levels of the new gifts so I can buy a level 2 but not have to purchase the level 1 and to actually have access to the gifts at least from the core werewolf book. Instead I get a conversion guideline with only one example of one gift, unlike the Vampire translation guide that ported every single discipline in the core book.

I give this two stars rather than one, though, for the traits and systems chapter; its suggestions make the gauru form feel incredibly powerful and terrifying and make crinos epic all over again. The best part in this chapter, though, is the expertly done Harmony system; I really like how it captures the feeling of being a garou.

Even with that bright spot, though, I do not feel like I got my money's worth out of this product as compared to the Vampire guide. After the Vampire translation guide came out I bought Requiem supplements because much of the work was already done and I could run a game with the best elements of fun. This product doesn't add more value to the Forsaken line and doesn't motivate me to seek out Forsaken books; why should I spend money AND more time and work to make everything fit together when this guide was supposed to make everything easier?

Rating:
[2 of 5 Stars!]
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