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BESM d20 Revised Edition
 
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BESM d20 Revised Edition
Publisher: White Wolf
by Timothy B. [Featured Reviewer]
Date Added: 09/25/2012 11:52:20
A lot of what is in BESM d20 can be found in BESM 3.0 and SAS d20. A lot. So much that I wish I had just one omnibus edition with say a d20 conversion chapter. Almost all the attributes have the same (or similar) point spread across all the systems and to convert to d20 from Tri-Stat is often just a matter of doubling the points. BESM d20 includes rules for converting the D&D and d20 Mod classes to their point system so I am not at a lack of choices. I did notice right away that BESM d20's Dynamic Sorcerer is not 100% compatible with SAS d20's Costumed Wizard; and similar inconsistencies have popped up. There are also minor balance issues between the SAS classes and between the SAS and BESM classes.

Levels, Classes and Hit Points
Ok, lets get this out of the way now. BESM d20 and SAS d20 both have levels, classes and hitpoints. I typically find that people can deal with one, but not the other, and rarely both unless it's D&D. On the surface level can convert roughly to M&M's PL, rough enough that I am going to say it's fine and not worry about it. But Hit Points do not work with M&M's Damage system.

And then there are Classes.

While some don't like this, I think it works well in terms of Anime, but less so for Supers. Ok for the most part these can be ignored since they only decide what powers a character will get and when, what Hit Die, attacks and saves. BESM d20 offers a classless option which should work fine for the class haters out there. Also BESM d20 deconstructs the D&D classes by what they get with points to show their relative merits (useful for anyone playing D&D). We can convert the Classes to archetypes but we are still stuck with levels. It is d20 after all.

The Classes in BESM d20 seem to work better for me. The SAS d20 classes felt too restrictive. One thing I wanted to do was stat up my son's favorite female super heroes Fire and Ice, but the closest thing that seems to work is "Adventurer" with maybe some "Acrobat"? Not very satisfying. At this point I go to my d20 Modern and Mutants & Masterminds to get an idea what levels might be the best.

Once that is out of the way the rest actually falls into place really nice.

What gets me about BESM d20 is the huge amount of untapped potential here. There is just a ton of stuff in this book for the taking. Same with SAS. Speaking of SAS, the best super-hero history I ever read was in the pages of SAS. They are the same in both the d20 and Tri-Stat versions (another grumble). SAS looks like it should mix well with M&M but I guess they are really too close to each other that their differences are more obvious. It's a shame that SAS never really got it's due. It does read like a rough draft of M&M at times.

Is BESM d20 Anime? Well I guess I have to ask, what is Anime? BESM d20 is a good d20 version of BESM. I am not convinced though it taps into that collective known as "Anime" as well as BESM 2 or 3 does. I have played more BESM d20 than BESM 3 so to me it came off more like "Cartoon Cinematic d20". Which is in itself not so bad. I have mixed BESM d20 and D&D3 and gotten something a bit more cinematic. I have also mixed BESM d20 with d20 Star Wars for some really weird stuff, but all of it fun.

As I wrap up BESM (all versions) I have to reiterate what a shame it is that we lost GoO. I know companies come and go all the time and each time something unique to the industry is lost. Not to say there were not issues with GoO; there were plenty, and they were hardly a model of how to run a business. It is just too bad that what they provided to the game industry is now gone.

Rating:
[4 of 5 Stars!]
BESM d20 Revised Edition
Publisher: White Wolf
by Joshua F. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 07/31/2009 06:11:24
This is really a great resource for anyone wanting to build their own world or system

Rating:
[5 of 5 Stars!]
BESM d20 Revised Edition
Publisher: White Wolf
by Carson H. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 09/21/2008 00:14:51
Very nice! All-around was very pleased with this product. As PDFs go it is well worth the price. I would recommend this to my friends.

Rating:
[4 of 5 Stars!]
BESM d20 Revised Edition
Publisher: White Wolf
by Sunny m. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 03/06/2008 03:38:39
I liked it, good stuff i do believe. Also no problems with it enjoyed it, 50 characters is to long.

Rating:
[5 of 5 Stars!]
BESM d20 Revised Edition
Publisher: White Wolf
by Dylan C. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 03/16/2007 13:13:23
It's a good book, I highly recommend it if you're a fan of classless systems.

Rating:
[4 of 5 Stars!]
BESM d20 Revised Edition
Publisher: White Wolf
by Michael H. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 03/11/2007 01:16:54
At the height of the d20 boom, Guardians of order evidently decided that to compete they had to have a d20 version of their flagship title, Big Eyes, Small Mouth. This was the sort of bandwagon thinking that probably contributed to their downfall.

The game that resulted is a somewhat broken effort to meld a point-buy system onto the d20 core mechanic. As attempts to do this go, it wasn't bad -- I have seen (and they have done) worse. However, interesting an exercise as it is, it is not nearly as playable or effective as it needed to be to really have a chance. Not so much a lost opportunity as an object lesson in the dangers of game design hubris.

Rating:
[3 of 5 Stars!]
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